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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">What I just think about:<br>
I just deleted all the lines in my elements-list where area is
<= 0.000000001. Doesn't that mean that I have small holes in my
surface mesh now? How is Gmsh able to work with this? I just don't
understand why this makes a difference compared to just check if
area is = 0<br>
<br>
Steffen<br>
<br>
Am 18.03.2014 21:41, schrieb Steffen Becker:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi,<br>
puh, that's weird:<br>
First I checked my triangles if their area is > 0 (to get the
ones which are aligned). This didn't helped as I said in my last
mail. Now I (just for fun) checked if the area > 0.000000001
and now it works - but I don't know why this is such a
difference?!<br>
<br>
Anyway, thanks for your help!<br>
Steffen<br>
<br>
Am 18.03.2014 10:57, schrieb Zenker, Dr. Matthias:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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Steffen,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">there
are still ill-defined triangles, e.g. 2319, 2320, 2321. </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">You can find that out by yourself by
inspecting your mesh with gmsh in the way I described in
my last mail.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">Remark: checking “surface faces” can help to
examine the surface.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">HTH,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US">Matthias<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Steffen Becker [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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href="mailto:steffenbecker87@yahoo.de">mailto:steffenbecker87@yahoo.de</a>]
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 17. März 2014 22:39<br>
<b>An:</b> Zenker, Dr. Matthias<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Roman Fratczak; <a
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href="mailto:gmsh@geuz.org">gmsh@geuz.org</a><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Gmsh] Error : Self intersecting
surface mesh, computing intersections (this could
take a while)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Matthias,<br>
<br>
thank you for your help!<br>
I think I successfully deleted all the triangles with
zero surface. Unfortunately the same error still appears
(but at least with much less intersections). You find my
new .msh file in the appendix. Do you have more ideas?<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Steffen<br>
<br>
Am 17.03.2014 11:37, schrieb Zenker, Dr. Matthias:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Steffen,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">I think you have ill-defined triangles in
your mesh. For example, there is a triangle 15328
which contains the nodes 7358, 7359, and 7360. But
these nodes are aligned, so the triangle has zero
surface. I would suspect this kind of problem to be
the cause for the failure. I discovered that by
examining your mesh after merging the intersect.pos,
and by displaying node labels and surface labels in
gmsh. I saw that this triangle was not visible, just
its label, and searched for “15328” in your msh file
to see what nodes it contains.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">You should make sure that this kind of
thing cannot happen when you define the surface mesh.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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lang="EN-US">HTH,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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lang="EN-US">Matthias</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Steffen Becker [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:steffenbecker87@yahoo.de">mailto:steffenbecker87@yahoo.de</a>]
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 17. März 2014 11:20<br>
<b>An:</b> Zenker, Dr. Matthias<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Roman Fratczak; <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gmsh@geuz.org">gmsh@geuz.org</a><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Gmsh] Error : Self
intersecting surface mesh, computing
intersections (this could take a while)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Here it is.<br>
<br>
Am 17.03.2014 11:14, schrieb Zenker, Dr. Matthias:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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Steffen,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">I found out: Outlook is wrong.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">I just discovered a small info saying
that Outlook thinks that my_file.msh is insecure
and that it has deleted the attachment (Grrrr). So
the fault was on my side, sorry. Could you try to
send it again with a changed extension, e.g.
rename it to my_file.msh.txt?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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lang="EN-US">Matthias</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Steffen Becker [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:steffenbecker87@yahoo.de">mailto:steffenbecker87@yahoo.de</a>]
<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 17. März 2014 10:55<br>
<b>An:</b> Zenker, Dr. Matthias<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Roman Fratczak; <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gmsh@geuz.org">gmsh@geuz.org</a><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Gmsh] Error : Self
intersecting surface mesh, computing
intersections (this could take a while)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Matthias,<br>
<br>
I don't know what's wrong here.<br>
When I check my mails, there is a .msh file in
the mail from 12.03.2014 18:21 and also one in
the mail from 14.03.2014 12:33.<br>
Finally, I sent you again a .msh file in this
mail. Do you receive it?<br>
<br>
Steffen<br>
<br>
<br>
Am 17.03.2014 09:52, schrieb Zenker, Dr.
Matthias:<o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-US">Hi Steffen,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">in the mail you mention there is
only a geo file…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">Matthias</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
Steffen Becker [<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:steffenbecker87@yahoo.de">mailto:steffenbecker87@yahoo.de</a>]
<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 14. März 2014
21:09<br>
<b>An:</b> Zenker, Dr. Matthias<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Roman Fratczak; <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gmsh@geuz.org">gmsh@geuz.org</a><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Gmsh] Error : Self
intersecting surface mesh, computing
intersections (this could take a while)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Matthias,<br>
<br>
hm, I sent it on 12.03.2014 18:21, don't
know what went wrong.<br>
As you see, I created a ASCII .msh file as
explained in the documentation, so I hope
it's correct.<br>
What can I do now?<br>
<br>
Steffen<br>
<br>
Am 14.03.2014 13:05, schrieb Zenker, Dr.
Matthias:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi
Steffen,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">there was no msh file in any
of your mails.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">Depending on what is in the
msh file, your steps seem correct to me.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">Matthias</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
Steffen Becker [<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:steffenbecker87@yahoo.de">mailto:steffenbecker87@yahoo.de</a>]
<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 14. März
2014 12:33<br>
<b>An:</b> Zenker, Dr. Matthias<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Roman Fratczak; <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gmsh@geuz.org">gmsh@geuz.org</a><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Gmsh] Error :
Self intersecting surface mesh,
computing intersections (this could
take a while)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Matthias,<br>
<br>
I think you are talking about your mail
from 12.03.2014 09:59 ?<br>
In one of my last mails I already sent
you a selfcreated .msh file - but the 3D
mesh still failes. The intersect.pos
shows me some <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">intersections,
but when I check my nodes for
duplicates I can't find any.<br>
</span>Hope my steps are correct:<br>
- create "my_file.msh" with my python
script and check it for nodes
duplications -> none found<br>
- open "my_file.geo" in Gmsh<br>
- do "Modules" -> "Mesh" -> "3D"<br>
- receive error message<br>
- merge "intersect.pos" and see some
intersections but I don't know why
because the are no duplicated nodes<br>
<br>
Steffen<br>
<br>
<br>
Am 14.03.2014 09:50, schrieb Zenker, Dr.
Matthias:<o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-US">Hi Steffen,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">you should be able to
generate a filled volume mesh if you
follow my suggestion from the other
mail:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">Write the 2D mesh in
gmsh format (e.g. as outerface.msh,
gmsh documentation for more info on
the msh format) and merge that one
instead of the myfile.ply2 file,
leaving the other command lines in
your .geo file as they are. If you
then do a 3D mesh, gmsh will take the
2D mesh as defined in your file. You
can then refine the mesh if you wish.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Steffen Becker [<a
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href="mailto:steffenbecker87@yahoo.de">mailto:steffenbecker87@yahoo.de</a>]
<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 12.
März 2014 20:00<br>
<b>An:</b> Roman Fratczak<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Zenker, Dr. Matthias;
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gmsh@geuz.org">gmsh@geuz.org</a><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Gmsh] Error
: Self intersecting surface
mesh, computing intersections
(this could take a while)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<br>
<br>
I'm so sorry for all time you spent
with my problem, but now I see: We
talk at cross. It's my fault, I
didn't explained correctly what I
need.<br>
I want to receive a *filled* volume
mesh.<br>
I created 2 files (steffen.stl and
steffen2.stl) with my python script.<br>
With steffen.stl I successfully
could create such a filled volume
mesh as seen in steffen.msh.<br>
When I try exactly the same with
steffen2.stl then I get the error
message in the subject (and the
surface mesh doesn't get filled).<br>
So that's why the .iges file you
sent me isn't what I need.<br>
<br>
Sorry for all this confusion,<br>
Steffen<br>
<br>
<br>
Am 12.03.2014 18:53, schrieb Roman
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<p class="MsoNormal">Steffen,<br>
<br>
I did a volume based on your
surface mesh - see attached IGES
(compressed with 7-zip).<br>
After reading it into GMSH, you
can create the 1D, then 2D and
finally 3D mesh with no errors.<br>
<br>
You can do the same using GMSH
volume definition (as already
wrote)-> it will work, as the
fundamental faces are plane
triangles.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Roman<br>
<br>
<br>
W dniu 12.03.2014 18:27, Steffen
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file, sorry!<br>
<br>
Am 12.03.2014 18:21, schrieb
Steffen Becker:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you
so far,<br>
<br>
I create both files: .msh and
.geo, but I still get the same
error. What's my mistake?<br>
<br>
Steffen<br>
<br>
Am 12.03.2014 11:48, schrieb
Roman Fratczak:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<br>
<br>
FYI - you can remove double
vertices/edges (or repair)
in mesh in FreeCad (for
exampe).<br>
<br>
regards<br>
Roman<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
W dniu 12.03.2014 10:17,
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi
Matthias & Roman,<br>
<br>
I create a nodes- and
elements-list like this:<br>
# nodes:<br>
N1 0,0,0<br>
N2 0,1,0<br>
N3 1,0,0<br>
N4 0,0,1<br>
# elements, which describe
triangles:<br>
E1 1,2,3<br>
E2 2,3,4<br>
<br>
So I do have double edges
(here: between node 2+3).
Didn't now that this is a
problem for gmsh, sorry.<br>
<br>
I will try Romans solution
asap and give you a
feedback.<br>
Thank you both!<br>
<br>
Steffen<br>
<br>
<br>
Am 12.03.2014 09:59,
schrieb Zenker, Dr.
Matthias:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi
Steffen,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">I am not
totally sure from what
you wrote that there are
really no duplicated
nodes. In gmsh, you need
to define the surfaces
in a way that
neighbouring
surfaces/facets with a
common border use the _<i>same</i>_
nodes to define the
border. I could not see
from your file if there
are duplicated nodes,
and would propose that
you make sure that there
are really no such
duplications.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">If the
meshing still fails,
then this is a question
for the real gurus
(Christophe?).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-US">
Roman Fratczak [<a
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Mittwoch, 12. März
2014 09:51<br>
<b>An:</b> Steffen
Becker<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gmsh@geuz.org">gmsh@geuz.org</a><br>
<b>Betreff:</b>
Re: [Gmsh] Error :
Self intersecting
surface mesh,
computing
intersections
(this could take a
while)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi
Steffen,<br>
<br>
No it is more clear.
If you are working
with cloud of point,
then you may use
Meshlab for surface
regeneration. There
are many software that
are able to handle in
a resonable way the
cloud of points (like
rhino3D + resurf,
other). But these are
rather commercial.<br>
<br>
From the other side -
try to do the simplest
thing:<br>
<br>
Adjust your python
script for surface
creation in order to
save not as PLY but as
GMSH "geo" file using
points and lines<br>
<br>
Point(1)={0,0,0} ;<br>
Point(2)={0,1,0} ;<br>
...<br>
<br>
Line(1) = {1,2};<br>
..<br>
and.. Line Loop &
Surface -> Volume
..<br>
<br>
Then you will get a
volume defined by
geometric entities. In
this case is shoul be
easier to create a
better mesh on surface
and then on whole
volume.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Roman<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
W dniu 11.03.2014
17:59, Steffen Becker
pisze:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<br>
<br>
@ Roman:<br>
some more details:<br>
I have a point cloud
given and generate
the surface mesh by
myself (with
python). I don't
know a good
algorithm to create
a volume mesh out of
this surface mesh -
that's why I use
gmsh for this task.<br>
I also checked my
surface mesh for
double vertexes but
I didn't find any.
What do you mean
with "double egdes"?
Isn't there always a
"double edge",
because two
neighbour facets
always have one same
edge?!<br>
<br>
I will send you a
.step or .iges file
as soon as I figured
out how to handle
the "No OpenCASCADE
model found" error.<br>
<br>
I'm appending the
other mailing
history (with
Matthias) to this
mail - sorry for
that "double
mailing", I just
forgot one time to
"reply to all" -.-<br>
Anyone else has an
idea why the meshing
fails?<br>
<br>
Regards and thank
you a lot,<br>
Steffen<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>Hi Steffen,<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>I don't see either why the meshing fails, sorry.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Matthias<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Von: Steffen Becker [<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:steffenbecker87@yahoo.de">mailto:steffenbecker87@yahoo.de</a>]<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. März 2014 14:42<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>An: Zenker, Dr. Matthias<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Cc: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gmsh@geuz.org">gmsh@geuz.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Betreff: Re: [Gmsh] Error : Self intersecting surface mesh, computing<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>intersections (this could take a while)<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Oh I'm really sorry, here is the file.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>In addition I sent you also the intersect.pos. I don't understand why exactly<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>these surfaces are problematic and the "neighbour surfaces"<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>aren't - although they have the same geometry =/<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Am 11.03.2014 12:07, schrieb Zenker, Dr. Matthias:<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Hi Steffen,<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>if you don't provide the myfile.ply2, we cannot see your geometry...<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre> You can visualize intersect.pos by merging it to your geometry.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>HTH,<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Matthias<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Am
11.03.2014 14:33,
schrieb Roman
Fratczak:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello,<br>
<br>
It is possible,
that you will get
your geometry in
other format? <br>
In your "ply"
there is already a
surface mesh
given. Try maybe
use STEP,
IGES,... as
input- then it is
easer to
recalculate the
surface mesh.<br>
<br>
In case of need of
usage of "a dead
mesh" - maybe try
first to remesh it
(i.e. in blender
with modification
Remesh) and/or
clean it (removing
double vertexes
and edges).<br>
<br>
regards<br>
Roman<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
W dniu 11.03.2014
12:13, Steffen
Becker pisze:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal">Hi,<br>
<br>
in the appendix
you find my
model.<br>
Thanks for
help!!<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Steffen<br>
<br>
Am 11.03.2014
11:47, schrieb
Roman Fratczak:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal">Hello
Steffen,<br>
<br>
Yes. You can
try to the
first Optimize
quality of
tetra, or all
of them (just
try).<br>
<br>
I don't know
how your model
looks like. If
the elements
on the surface
are too big,
then the solid
elements
(probably
tetragonal)
may be with
intersecting
edges or
faces.
Therefore the
reducing size
of element may
help
(especially on
the surfaces).<br>
<br>
Or- just share
your model
(ply) -in
order to be
more precise.<br>
<br>
regards<br>
Roman<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
W dniu
10.03.2014
18:06, Steffen
Becker pisze:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal">Hi
Roman,<br>
when you say
"enable
option:
optimize", you
mean" Tools
-> Options
-> Mesh
-> Advanced
-> Optimize
quality of
tetrahedra,
Optimize
quality of
tetrahedra
with Netgen,
Optimize high
order meshes
(experimental)"
?<br>
And why is
reducing
element size
important? In
my case it is
important that
the object has
such "90
degree
corners".<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Steffen<br>
<br>
Am 10.03.2014
16:55, schrieb
Roman
Fratczak:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal">Hi
Steffen,<br>
<br>
If your volume
is OK (is
really a
closed one) -
try to:<br>
<br>
1. Reduce
element size
(especially in
a curved
shapes)<br>
2. Enable
option
"Optimize" -
in mesh
options <br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Roman<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
W dniu
10.03.2014
16:41, Steffen
Becker pisze:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal">Hello
everyone, <br>
<br>
I'm a gmsh
beginner and I
want to create
a 3D volume
mesh out of a
given
surface-mesh
but I got the
error message
as seen in the
subject. You
find my .geo
file in the
appendix. <br>
Can anyone
tell me what I
have to do to
create a 3D
mesh? I even
can't figure
out where the
intersection
are located
(don't know
how to read
the
intersect.pos).
<br>
Sorry for my
poor english.
<br>
<br>
Regards, <br>
Steffen <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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ERBE Elektromedizin GmbH<br>
Firmensitz: 72072 Tuebingen<br>
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Firmensitz: 72072 Tuebingen<br>
Geschaeftsfuehrer: Christian O. Erbe, Reiner Thede<br>
Registergericht: Stuttgart HRB 380137<br>
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