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      Am 17.03.2014 11:14, schrieb Zenker, Dr. Matthias:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi
            Steffen,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
            lang="EN-US">I found out: Outlook is wrong.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
            lang="EN-US">I just discovered a small info saying that
            Outlook thinks that my_file.msh is insecure and that it has
            deleted the attachment (Grrrr). So the fault was on my side,
            sorry. Could you try to send it again with a changed
            extension, e.g. rename it to my_file.msh.txt?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
            lang="EN-US">Matthias<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">Von:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
                  Steffen Becker [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:steffenbecker87@yahoo.de">mailto:steffenbecker87@yahoo.de</a>]
                  <br>
                  <b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 17. März 2014 10:55<br>
                  <b>An:</b> Zenker, Dr. Matthias<br>
                  <b>Cc:</b> Roman Fratczak; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gmsh@geuz.org">gmsh@geuz.org</a><br>
                  <b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Gmsh] Error : Self intersecting
                  surface mesh, computing intersections (this could take
                  a while)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Matthias,<br>
              <br>
              I don't know what's wrong here.<br>
              When I check my mails, there is a .msh file in the mail
              from 12.03.2014 18:21 and also one in the mail from
              14.03.2014 12:33.<br>
              Finally, I sent you again a .msh file in this mail. Do you
              receive it?<br>
              <br>
              Steffen<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              Am 17.03.2014 09:52, schrieb Zenker, Dr. Matthias:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
                lang="EN-US">Hi Steffen,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
                lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
                lang="EN-US">in the mail you mention there is only a geo
                file…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
                lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
                lang="EN-US">Matthias</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
                lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">Von:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
                      Steffen Becker [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:steffenbecker87@yahoo.de">mailto:steffenbecker87@yahoo.de</a>]
                      <br>
                      <b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 14. März 2014 21:09<br>
                      <b>An:</b> Zenker, Dr. Matthias<br>
                      <b>Cc:</b> Roman Fratczak; <a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:gmsh@geuz.org">gmsh@geuz.org</a><br>
                      <b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Gmsh] Error : Self
                      intersecting surface mesh, computing intersections
                      (this could take a while)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Matthias,<br>
                  <br>
                  hm, I sent it on 12.03.2014 18:21, don't know what
                  went wrong.<br>
                  As you see, I created a ASCII .msh file as explained
                  in the documentation, so I hope it's correct.<br>
                  What can I do now?<br>
                  <br>
                  Steffen<br>
                  <br>
                  Am 14.03.2014 13:05, schrieb Zenker, Dr. Matthias:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi
                    Steffen,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
                    lang="EN-US">there was no msh file in any of your
                    mails.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
                    lang="EN-US">Depending on what is in the msh file,
                    your steps seem correct to me.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
                    lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
                    lang="EN-US">Matthias</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">Von:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
                          Steffen Becker [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:steffenbecker87@yahoo.de">mailto:steffenbecker87@yahoo.de</a>]
                          <br>
                          <b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 14. März 2014 12:33<br>
                          <b>An:</b> Zenker, Dr. Matthias<br>
                          <b>Cc:</b> Roman Fratczak; <a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:gmsh@geuz.org">gmsh@geuz.org</a><br>
                          <b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Gmsh] Error : Self
                          intersecting surface mesh, computing
                          intersections (this could take a while)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Matthias,<br>
                      <br>
                      I think you are talking about your mail from
                      12.03.2014 09:59 ?<br>
                      In one of my last mails I already sent you a
                      selfcreated .msh file - but the 3D mesh still
                      failes. The intersect.pos shows me some
                      <o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">intersections,
                        but when I check my nodes for duplicates I can't
                        find any.<br>
                      </span>Hope my steps are correct:<br>
                      - create "my_file.msh" with my python script and
                      check it for nodes duplications -> none found<br>
                      - open "my_file.geo" in Gmsh<br>
                      - do "Modules" -> "Mesh" -> "3D"<br>
                      - receive error message<br>
                      - merge "intersect.pos" and see some intersections
                      but I don't know why because the are no duplicated
                      nodes<br>
                      <br>
                      Steffen<br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      Am 14.03.2014 09:50, schrieb Zenker, Dr. Matthias:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
                        lang="EN-US">Hi Steffen,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
                        lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
                        lang="EN-US">you should be able to generate a
                        filled volume mesh if you follow my suggestion
                        from the other mail:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
                        lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
                        lang="EN-US">Write  the 2D mesh in gmsh format
                        (e.g. as outerface.msh, gmsh documentation for
                        more info on the msh format) and merge that one
                        instead of the myfile.ply2 file, leaving the
                        other command lines in your .geo file as they
                        are. If you then do a 3D mesh, gmsh will take
                        the 2D mesh as defined in your file. You can
                        then refine the mesh if you wish.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
                        lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
                        lang="EN-US">HTH,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
                        lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
                        lang="EN-US">Matthias</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
                        lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">Von:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
                              Steffen Becker [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:steffenbecker87@yahoo.de">mailto:steffenbecker87@yahoo.de</a>]
                              <br>
                              <b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 12. März 2014
                              20:00<br>
                              <b>An:</b> Roman Fratczak<br>
                              <b>Cc:</b> Zenker, Dr. Matthias; <a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:gmsh@geuz.org">gmsh@geuz.org</a><br>
                              <b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Gmsh] Error : Self
                              intersecting surface mesh, computing
                              intersections (this could take a while)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<br>
                          <br>
                          I'm so sorry for all time you spent with my
                          problem, but now I see: We talk at cross. It's
                          my fault, I didn't explained correctly what I
                          need.<br>
                          I want to receive a *filled* volume mesh.<br>
                          I created 2 files (steffen.stl and
                          steffen2.stl) with my python script.<br>
                          With steffen.stl I successfully could create
                          such a filled volume mesh as seen in
                          steffen.msh.<br>
                          When I try exactly the same with steffen2.stl
                          then I get the error message in the subject
                          (and the surface mesh doesn't get filled).<br>
                          So that's why the .iges file you sent me isn't
                          what I need.<br>
                          <br>
                          Sorry for all this confusion,<br>
                          Steffen<br>
                          <br>
                          <br>
                          Am 12.03.2014 18:53, schrieb Roman Fratczak:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">Steffen,<br>
                            <br>
                            I did a volume based on your surface mesh -
                            see attached IGES (compressed with 7-zip).<br>
                            After reading it into GMSH, you can create
                            the 1D, then 2D and finally 3D mesh with no
                            errors.<br>
                            <br>
                            You can do the same using GMSH volume
                            definition (as already wrote)-> it will
                            work, as the fundamental faces are plane
                            triangles.<br>
                            <br>
                            Regards<br>
                            Roman<br>
                            <br>
                            <br>
                            W dniu 12.03.2014 18:27, Steffen Becker
                            pisze:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal">Wrong .geo file, sorry!<br>
                              <br>
                              Am 12.03.2014 18:21, schrieb Steffen
                              Becker:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">Thank you so far,<br>
                                <br>
                                I create both files: .msh and .geo, but
                                I still get the same error. What's my
                                mistake?<br>
                                <br>
                                Steffen<br>
                                <br>
                                Am 12.03.2014 11:48, schrieb Roman
                                Fratczak:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<br>
                                  <br>
                                  FYI - you can remove double
                                  vertices/edges (or repair) in mesh in
                                  FreeCad (for exampe).<br>
                                  <br>
                                  regards<br>
                                  Roman<br>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  W dniu 12.03.2014 10:17, Steffen
                                  Becker pisze:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Matthias &
                                    Roman,<br>
                                    <br>
                                    I create a nodes- and elements-list
                                    like this:<br>
                                    # nodes:<br>
                                    N1 0,0,0<br>
                                    N2 0,1,0<br>
                                    N3 1,0,0<br>
                                    N4 0,0,1<br>
                                    # elements, which describe
                                    triangles:<br>
                                    E1 1,2,3<br>
                                    E2 2,3,4<br>
                                    <br>
                                    So I do have double edges (here:
                                    between node 2+3). Didn't now that
                                    this is a problem for gmsh, sorry.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    I will try Romans solution asap and
                                    give you a feedback.<br>
                                    Thank you both!<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Steffen<br>
                                    <br>
                                    <br>
                                    Am 12.03.2014 09:59, schrieb Zenker,
                                    Dr. Matthias:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi
                                      Steffen,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
                                      lang="EN-US">I am not totally sure
                                      from what you wrote that there are
                                      really no duplicated nodes. In
                                      gmsh, you need to define the
                                      surfaces in a way that
                                      neighbouring surfaces/facets with
                                      a common border use the _<i>same</i>_
                                      nodes to define the border. I
                                      could not see from your file if
                                      there are duplicated nodes, and
                                      would propose that you make sure
                                      that there are really no such
                                      duplications.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
                                      lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
                                      lang="EN-US">If the meshing still
                                      fails, then this is a question for
                                      the real gurus (Christophe?).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
                                      lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
                                      lang="EN-US">HTH,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
                                      lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
                                      lang="EN-US">Matthias</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
                                      lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                      lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
                                              lang="EN-US">Von:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
                                            lang="EN-US"> Roman Fratczak
                                            [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:fratczakroman@o2.pl">mailto:fratczakroman@o2.pl</a>]
                                            <br>
                                          </span><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">Gesendet:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
                                            Mittwoch, 12. März 2014
                                            09:51<br>
                                            <b>An:</b> Steffen Becker<br>
                                            <b>Cc:</b> <a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:gmsh@geuz.org">gmsh@geuz.org</a><br>
                                            <b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Gmsh]
                                            Error : Self intersecting
                                            surface mesh, computing
                                            intersections (this could
                                            take a while)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Steffen,<br>
                                        <br>
                                        No it is more clear. If you are
                                        working with cloud of point,
                                        then you may use Meshlab for
                                        surface regeneration. There are
                                        many software that are able to
                                        handle in a resonable way the
                                        cloud of points (like rhino3D +
                                        resurf, other). But these are
                                        rather commercial.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        From the other side - try to do
                                        the simplest thing:<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Adjust your python script for
                                        surface creation in order to
                                        save not as PLY but as GMSH
                                        "geo" file using points and
                                        lines<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Point(1)={0,0,0} ;<br>
                                        Point(2)={0,1,0} ;<br>
                                        ...<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Line(1) = {1,2};<br>
                                        ..<br>
                                        and.. Line Loop & Surface
                                        -> Volume ..<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Then you will get a volume
                                        defined by geometric entities.
                                        In this case is shoul be easier
                                        to create a better mesh on
                                        surface and then on whole
                                        volume.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Regards<br>
                                        Roman<br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                         <br>
                                        W dniu 11.03.2014 17:59, Steffen
                                        Becker pisze:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<br>
                                          <br>
                                          @ Roman:<br>
                                          some more details:<br>
                                          I have a point cloud given and
                                          generate the surface mesh by
                                          myself (with python). I don't
                                          know a good algorithm to
                                          create a volume mesh out of
                                          this surface mesh - that's why
                                          I use gmsh for this task.<br>
                                          I also checked my surface mesh
                                          for double vertexes but I
                                          didn't find any. What do you
                                          mean with "double egdes"?
                                          Isn't there always a "double
                                          edge", because two neighbour
                                          facets always have one same
                                          edge?!<br>
                                          <br>
                                          I will send you a .step or
                                          .iges file as soon as I
                                          figured out how to handle the
                                          "No OpenCASCADE model found"
                                          error.<br>
                                          <br>
                                          I'm appending the other
                                          mailing history (with
                                          Matthias) to this mail - sorry
                                          for that "double mailing", I
                                          just forgot one time to "reply
                                          to all" -.-<br>
                                          Anyone else has an idea why
                                          the meshing fails?<br>
                                          <br>
                                          Regards and thank you a lot,<br>
                                          Steffen<br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <pre>Hi Steffen,<o:p></o:p></pre>
                                        <pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
                                        <pre>I don't see either why the meshing fails, sorry.<o:p></o:p></pre>
                                        <pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
                                        <pre>Matthias<o:p></o:p></pre>
                                        <pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
                                        <pre>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<o:p></o:p></pre>
                                        <pre>Von: Steffen Becker [<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:steffenbecker87@yahoo.de">mailto:steffenbecker87@yahoo.de</a>]<o:p></o:p></pre>
                                        <pre>Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. März 2014 14:42<o:p></o:p></pre>
                                        <pre>An: Zenker, Dr. Matthias<o:p></o:p></pre>
                                        <pre>Cc: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gmsh@geuz.org">gmsh@geuz.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
                                        <pre>Betreff: Re: [Gmsh] Error : Self intersecting surface mesh, computing<o:p></o:p></pre>
                                        <pre>intersections (this could take a while)<o:p></o:p></pre>
                                        <pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
                                        <pre>Oh I'm really sorry, here is the file.<o:p></o:p></pre>
                                        <pre>In addition I sent you also the intersect.pos. I don't understand why exactly<o:p></o:p></pre>
                                        <pre>these surfaces are problematic and the "neighbour surfaces"<o:p></o:p></pre>
                                        <pre>aren't - although they have the same geometry =/<o:p></o:p></pre>
                                        <pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
                                        <pre>Am 11.03.2014 12:07, schrieb Zenker, Dr. Matthias:<o:p></o:p></pre>
                                        <pre>Hi Steffen,<o:p></o:p></pre>
                                        <pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
                                        <pre>if you don't provide the myfile.ply2, we cannot see your geometry...<o:p></o:p></pre>
                                        <pre> You can visualize intersect.pos by merging it to your geometry.<o:p></o:p></pre>
                                        <pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
                                        <pre>HTH,<o:p></o:p></pre>
                                        <pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
                                        <pre>Matthias<o:p></o:p></pre>
                                        <pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
                                        <pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Am
                                          11.03.2014 14:33, schrieb
                                          Roman Fratczak:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Hello,<br>
                                            <br>
                                            It is possible, that you
                                            will get your geometry in
                                            other format? <br>
                                            In your "ply" there is
                                            already a surface mesh
                                            given. Try maybe use STEP,
                                            IGES,...  as input- then it
                                            is easer to recalculate the
                                            surface mesh.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            In case of need of usage of
                                            "a dead mesh" - maybe try
                                            first to remesh it (i.e. in
                                            blender with modification
                                            Remesh) and/or clean it
                                            (removing double vertexes
                                            and edges).<br>
                                            <br>
                                            regards<br>
                                            Roman<br>
                                            <br>
                                            <br>
                                            <br>
                                            <br>
                                            W dniu 11.03.2014 12:13,
                                            Steffen Becker pisze:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<br>
                                              <br>
                                              in the appendix you find
                                              my model.<br>
                                              Thanks for  help!!<br>
                                              <br>
                                              Regards,<br>
                                              Steffen<br>
                                              <br>
                                              Am 11.03.2014 11:47,
                                              schrieb Roman Fratczak:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal">Hello
                                                Steffen,<br>
                                                <br>
                                                Yes. You can try to the
                                                first Optimize quality
                                                of tetra, or all of them
                                                (just try).<br>
                                                <br>
                                                I don't know how your
                                                model looks like. If the
                                                elements on the surface
                                                are too big, then the
                                                solid elements (probably
                                                tetragonal) may be with
                                                intersecting edges or
                                                faces. Therefore the
                                                reducing size of element
                                                may help (especially on
                                                the surfaces).<br>
                                                <br>
                                                Or- just share your
                                                model (ply) -in order to
                                                be more precise.<br>
                                                <br>
                                                regards<br>
                                                Roman<br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                W dniu 10.03.2014 18:06,
                                                Steffen Becker pisze:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                                <p class="MsoNormal">Hi
                                                  Roman,<br>
                                                  when you say "enable
                                                  option: optimize", you
                                                  mean" Tools ->
                                                  Options -> Mesh
                                                  -> Advanced ->
                                                  Optimize quality of
                                                  tetrahedra, Optimize
                                                  quality of tetrahedra
                                                  with Netgen, Optimize
                                                  high order meshes
                                                  (experimental)" ?<br>
                                                  And why is reducing
                                                  element size
                                                  important? In my case
                                                  it is important that
                                                  the object has such
                                                  "90 degree corners".<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Regards,<br>
                                                  Steffen<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Am 10.03.2014 16:55,
                                                  schrieb Roman
                                                  Fratczak:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Hi
                                                    Steffen,<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    If your volume is OK
                                                    (is really a closed
                                                    one) - try to:<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    1. Reduce element
                                                    size (especially in
                                                    a curved shapes)<br>
                                                    2. Enable option
                                                    "Optimize" - in mesh
                                                    options <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Regards<br>
                                                    Roman<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    W dniu 10.03.2014
                                                    16:41, Steffen
                                                    Becker pisze:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Hello
                                                    everyone, <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    I'm a gmsh beginner
                                                    and I want to create
                                                    a 3D volume mesh out
                                                    of a given
                                                    surface-mesh but I
                                                    got the error
                                                    message as seen in
                                                    the subject. You
                                                    find my .geo file in
                                                    the appendix.
                                                    <br>
                                                    Can anyone tell me
                                                    what I have to do to
                                                    create a 3D mesh? I
                                                    even can't figure
                                                    out where the
                                                    intersection are
                                                    located (don't know
                                                    how to read the
                                                    intersect.pos).
                                                    <br>
                                                    Sorry for my poor
                                                    english. <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Regards, <br>
                                                    Steffen <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <o:p></o:p></p>
                                                  <pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre>
                                                  <pre>gmsh mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre>
                                                  <pre><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gmsh@geuz.org">gmsh@geuz.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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                                    ERBE Elektromedizin GmbH<br>
                                    Firmensitz: 72072 Tuebingen<br>
                                    Geschaeftsfuehrer: Christian O.
                                    Erbe, Reiner Thede<br>
                                    Registergericht: Stuttgart HRB
                                    380137<o:p></o:p></p>
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                      Registergericht: Stuttgart HRB 380137<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  Geschaeftsfuehrer: Christian O. Erbe, Reiner Thede<br>
                  Registergericht: Stuttgart HRB 380137<o:p></o:p></p>
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              Geschaeftsfuehrer: Christian O. Erbe, Reiner Thede<br>
              Registergericht: Stuttgart HRB 380137<o:p></o:p></p>
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      Firmensitz: 72072 Tuebingen<br>
      Geschaeftsfuehrer: Christian O. Erbe, Reiner Thede<br>
      Registergericht: Stuttgart HRB 380137<br>
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